Back in February when I was considering all of these schools, I made a chart that truthfully wasn’t all that helpful to me because it continually proved that each of the schools was a great school that had strengths in different areas.
However, it could be useful to others if they think one of those areas are particularly important to them, so I figured I’d post it. If it’s useful to someone, great. If not, oh well, I tried.
It is based off of information found on the schools’ websites and employment information provided to the ABA, with all caveats needed for the credibility of that information noted. Without further ado:
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For future search purposes (in case anyone actually uses advanced search): Chicago, NYU, Columbia, UVA, Michigan, employment, tuition, Leiter rankings, COA, placement, comparison etc.
This is super helpful. And surprising in a couple of ways, at least for me, who didn’t look too closely at most of these schools. Thanks so much for posting; it will certainly be useful for many. Where did you end up?
It made the most sense for my personality and goals, though I spent so much time trying to pick between schools, and in the end, I just knew that NYU was the right choice.
Just to put another point in the NYU column, you can’t really count Epstein as a Chicago professor anymore. Having emeritus status is not really the same as teaching somewhere.
True, but that faculty information is only 2005-2009. Hopefully Leiter will update the information soon to give a more accurate idea of where these professors are, as they seem to switch every once in a while (i.e. get poached).
I think it’s worth noting that NYU is the largest of the 5 compared here, but has the lowest student to faculty ratio.
Also, Dean Revesz gave a great little speech on why being big has important advantages. I can’t do it justice by paraphrasing here, but basically he laid out that the benefits of small schools were primarily cultural and NYU tried to foster a small school culture in a large school environment.
He’s teaching Contracts and Torts in Fall 2011 at NYU. (According to the course catalog http://its.law.nyu.edu/courses/index.cfm?) He taught Food and Drug Law Spring 2011 at NYU, and Contracts last Fall. It’s possible that he really likes frequent flyer miles, but he is an NYU professor as well.
It means he has a new title. He was full-time at Chicago in the past and visiting at NYU. He now has the opposite arrangement. Definitely still teaches at Chicago and is in the building every day when it is ‘our turn’. A lot of professors have visting relationships with other institutions.
This would have been just right for me if we replaced UVA with Berkeley. I also failed to apply to Penn. I even had the essays written. I’m just actively lazy.
