I am deciding between some schools right now and need help deciding. Once I give my options I am sure everyone will say, retake your LSAT and apply later…that suggestion will be ignored I am content with my options, and rankings are not as important to me as they are to the majority on this site. My parents are paying for my school and my living expenses, so I will not be acquiring any debt. Essentially, going to these schools is risk free. My options are William Mitchell, Hofstra, and Syracuse. I am also currently on the waitlist for the University of Minnesota, which is my dream school. If I were to go to William Mitchell I could wait out Minnesota until the end. I am from Minnesota, I would most likely want to practice law in Minnesota also. When I visited UMN they basically said I could transfer as 2L as long as I’m in the top 50% of my class. I know everyone says don’t bet on transferring, however I want to go to UMN so bad. I would kind of like to move out of state for school and experience something new, but I am open to whatever. I want to make the best decision based on THESE options. Anyways, I would like some legit feedback and advice on my choices. All positive and helpful insight will be much appreciated!
Enjoy Billy Mitchell, though I bet it takes way more than above median to transfer.
I’d retake though. Only 51.33% of 2010 grads got long-term non-business jobs (the best proxy we have for fulltime, bar passage required jobs). That’s unbelievably crappy.
It’s not risk-free, since your parents will be incurring the costs. So 3.5 years from now, not only did they pay for your school, but they’ll have to take you back into their home because you might not be able to get a job from those schools.
TLS doesn’t have a rankings fetish, they have a job fetish. It just so happens there’s a correlation between those two.
And as far as transferring, even if they honor the transfer with you being top 50%, that’s still coin flip from not being to transfer… Are you willing to GRADUATE from those schools?
Dude, I just read through your history and you have a 3.7 GPA and a 153… If you study a little more you can save your parents thousands of dollars and STILL get into Minn if not a better school… Why is retaking off the table?
I did study, a lot. I had a tutor, took a class and I spent hours a week studying. My PT’s were way higher, and I guess I just suck under pressure. I took it December, which lead to me applying late and that hurt my cycle also. I was thinking of retaking in June to help me get off the UMN waitlist, would that be helpful? I have no interest in waiting another year and reapplying. I graduated last August and have already waited a full year to go, I do not want to wait another. Plus, I ran that idea by my parents and they weren’t too thrilled. They like my options, and we have a lot of legal connections…they’re not concerned about me not having job prospects.
Well that sucks becuase one law school exam at the end of the year which decides basically your entire grade in that class is a high-pressure situation.
Averaging around 163, I know that’s not great-but it’s significantly better than what I ended up getting. I read them everything/informed them and also conveyed what people say on here because it’s super discouraging. They don’t care, I suppose I am in a bit of a unique situation that most on here would not understand that leaves me not as concerned as others about job prospects.
If you have a GUARANTEED job, then okay, but don’t let your parents overestimate the strength of their connections. As someone’s who’s very, very well connected, a connection that can actually get you a full-time job with just a word or a call is really a rarity.
I understand the rarity. However, I do have options already that can help me prepare for when my parents open a firm for me. This thread is turning into exactly what I did not want it to be. I don’t want criticism for not retaking, or judgment based on my choices. I just wanted opinions on where I should go based on my current options. I feel like I have yet to get any insight on which school I should go to. So now that y’all see where I am coming from help would be very much appreciated!
I already have a nice scholarship at William Mitchell, which does not leave me paying too much out of pocket. The cost of William Mitchell would be far less than that at Hofstra or Syracuse. Their prices are way higher, I’m still waiting to hear on scholarships, and I would need to relocate to New York.
Right. Tens of thousands of dollars are on the line. OP scored in the 160s on PTs and only scored 153 on the real deal. Not retaking is practically irresponsible.
The answer is WM since it’s in-state so it has some rep. But it’s still a wrong answer for reasons mentioned by me and others… Don’t go out of state for a 3rd Tier school.
Okay, you sound both entitled and lack real motivation to overcome obstacles (such as your LSAT jitters). This is a problem, and something you will hopefully overcome now instead of later when it matters 100x more…
Do the responsible thing for your parents (and for your future career) and get a higher LSAT. Just because you have the privilege of having supportive and rich parents doesn’t mean its the moral thing to do to throw away their money just because you don’t feel like trying harder. I took it three times and sucked up the additional two off years because I do not have a parental hand out. It’s one thing to make this decision in ignorance, but being fully aware and still making it strikes me as very Generation-Me entitled.
And as far as transfering goes… usually being top 50% will barely make you competitive for a peer-to-peer transfer. In fact, I’d say you’d probably not be able to, and I say this having been on the Transfer listserves for over 2 years. Usually top third is the safe bet for even laterals between peers. Transfering up? Better be top 25%, or even top 10%.
I am content with my options, and rankings are not as important to me as they are to the majority on this site. My parents are paying for my school and my living expenses, so I will not be acquiring any debt. Essentially, going to these schools is risk free. My options are William Mitchell, Hofstra, and Syracuse. I am also currently on the waitlist for the University of Minnesota, which is my dream school. If I were to go to William Mitchell I could wait out Minnesota until the end. I am from Minnesota, I would most likely want to practice law in Minnesota also. When I visited UMN they basically said I could transfer as 2L as long as I’m in the top 50% of my class. I know everyone says don’t bet on transferring, however I want to go to UMN so bad. I would kind of like to move out of state for school and experience something new, but I am open to whatever. I want to make the best decision based on THESE options. Anyways, I would like some legit feedback and advice on my choices. All positive and helpful insight will be much appreciated!