OCI/Callback Interviewer Taking Questions

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Biglaw interviewer willing to answer question about the OCI/callback process. Work for V50 firm in major market (NY/DC/LA).

Good luck to all with OCI.

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Thank you for doing this. Is there generally a reason interviewers are assigned to specific people or is it more who is available at the time? I ask because I once had an interviewer ask me what I was interviewing for.

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Good questions.

  1. Do not read too much into the firm’s response timeline. There are many reason why some may hear before others (interview dates, interview evaluations submitted promptly, hiring committee meeting timing, etc.). It cannot hurt you to follow-up with a professional email to the head recruiter indicating continued interest and a willingness to answer any further questions about your credentials within 2-3 *weeks of the initial interview.

  2. I would not do anything differently. Treat the callback like a series of screeners. So, know your resume inside and out, be prepared to answer the lay up questions (tell me about yourself, why law, why this firm, etc), and be familiar with the firm and its practice areas. As I mentioned elsewhere on TLS, do also have plenty of questions lined up. Sometimes, callback can be geared more toward informing you about the nuts of bolts of XYZ firm.

*Edited for clarity. Apologies in advance for sloppiness…it was a LONG week.

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No problem.

This is also a good question.

I can’t speak to how other firms approach this issue, but my firm attempts to place you with people in your desired practice area. From what I have heard from friends at other firms, this is generally the case at those firms as well. You will likely get a list of the people interviewing you before the callback. If you do, take a look at their bios to see in which area(s) they focus. If you don’t get such a list, assume that each person you meet with is not familiar with your interests and be prepared to explain what you are leaning toward and why.

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What are the best/most interesting questions you’ve been asked in response to “do you have any questions for me?” Is there anything students should ask, or that you wish they’d ask, but don’t?

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That’s a tough one.

I wouldn’t assume you need to distinguish yourself from the pack by asking profound questions. I am totally fine with applicants asking fairly basic questions about the firm and the summer program. I think it’s fair to treat the question portion of the interview as an opportunity to get more educated on the nuts and bolts of firm XYZ. Having said all of that, it never hurts to ask an attorney whose work interests you what they find most rewarding/challenging/interesting about his/her practice area.

I generally expect to receive questions about firm culture and how work is assigned to SAs. But, I really don’t have a checklist of questions I expect applicants to address. In fact, sometimes the conversation goes in an unanticipated direction and the applicant has little time to ask questions at all.

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  1. What are the biggest no-nos suit/fashion-wise for men/women?
  2. If you’re a bit below the firm’s grade range or preferred cutoff, do you recommend addressing that/saying something like “I know I’m a below top 1/4, but I have this experience. etc, etc.”
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To follow up in this, if the interviewer gears questions more toward associate life/work than the summer, does this come off as a positive, negative, or neither?
Personally, I couldn’t care less about a short summer, relative to the years I hope to be at the firm

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I’d love to know the answer to this one. For example, TLS is adamant that wearing anything besides A&E Park Avenue shoes (such as wingtips) may cause a ding. Is this really the case?

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The “tell me about yourself” question seems to garner a lot of conflicting advice as to how to approach it. What is your suggestion?

Should I give you a summary of where I grew up (ie how I am tied to the area), take you through my college education (where I found my initial aspiration to pursue a career in law), and then my most recent working experience (where I solidified my desire pursue my legal education to become an attorney)?

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Should I somehow tie in an unrelated legal thing about myself, such as that I am a nutrition nut and a recreational bodybuilder?

Thanks for doing this.

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I am glad you asked both of these questions.

  1. Clothing - Nothing so skimpy, flashy, colorful or patterned that you would double-take if you walked by someone wearing such clothing on the sidewalk. That’s literally the only rule, which means you can wear just about anything that would not surprise the interviewer. When in doubt, ask a friend, parent, significant other/spouse, sibling or the career development office for input.

  2. Grades - Once you get the screening interview, I focus almost exclusively on your personality, demeanor, ability to hold a casual conversation, etc. Grades are not even on my radar screen. Having said that, I am likely in the minority on this issue. I think what you propose is perfectly acceptable and reasonable. Think of it this way, if you are below the grade cut-off and still received an interview, that means the other information on your resume and in your cover letter was impressive.

So, your instinct is spot on - harp on what makes you well-rounded. I would not directly address the class rank. Why plant that thought in the interviewer’s mind when you are trying to discuss your other positives? If the interviewer wants to discuss the rank, he/she will bring it up.

If you have to address the rank, own it. Explain how you ended up where you are, what you plan to change to improve, and harp again on your other qualities that make you a great candidate. Despite what students may think, grades are NOT the entire application package.

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What should a shy, quiet person do?

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lottery?

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I’ve had multiple interviews with firms that I am below the grade cut off for which are certainly not lottery (as there is not lottery), so that’s not always the reason.

I haven’t received callbacks either, though, and I think grades might have played into that (ie, I was not impressive enough while interviewing to overcome my grades perhaps). I think I got the interviews at all because of my relevant work experience.

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Experience matters more than a lot of people here realize. I’ve gotten a callback based on my résumé that didn’t include GPA or class rank (grades weren’t out yet when I mass mailed)

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i’m saying one (not necessarily either of you) could have gotten an interview based on lottery and nothing else, in answer to his stated proposition that something else about you must have been impressive to warrant an interview.

i’m merely pointing out the caveat to his general statement

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  1. At the after-oci-firm receptions, should I mainly mingle with the lawyers who interviewed me or should I branch out and talk to other people (I’m wondering if the other lawyers there have additional say in giving me a callback)? Further, what is the best way of maximizing your chances for a callback after an after oci mixer?

  2. If a current 2L SA puts in a word for you, how much does this help?

  3. I generally try to ask a question about partnership to convey that I’m looking to stay at the term long year. I generally word it as “what traits does firm X look at when deciding partnership.” Good idea or bad idea?


    Thanks so much for doing this.

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  1. Branch out and talk to others if you want. The lawyers who interviewed you will not hold it against you. Of course, if you bump into them/see them, say hello and let them know it was a pleasure meeting them. As a general rule, assume that anyone from any firm that is present at any OCI related event may have some say in whether you get a callback. So, just realize every (seemingly casual) conversation at a hospitality suite, etc. counts for evaluation purposes.

  2. Certainly does not hurt, especially if that SA is good/receives an offer. I have never interviewed someone recommended by a SA so cannot really be more specific than that.

  3. I would avoid questions about partnership. I may be in the minority in this issue, but I would find that question unusual - it assumes you get offered a job as an associate and outperform your peers for *10 years.

*Edited for clarity.

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Thanks for pointing this out - I should have address the lottery issue in my initial post.

Personally, I mentally approach all interviews as if they are pre-selects. That is, I assume the applicant has some skill set or experience we want. I couldn’t tell you which schools are pre-select/lottery - I don’t care. I have never once interviewed a weaker student through the lottery system, so I have not yet found a need to be distinguishing between the methods of selection for the interview.