Wow, guess I really underestimated the reach/significance of this thread. Thanks for the advice and sorry all!
Is this for 1L or 2L and would either lead to permanent employment?
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Personally, Iâd take eBay. Yeah, Google is one of the most important tech companies in the world, but so many things in life is who you know. Since you want to ultimately wind up with that kind of position at eBay, Iâd strength the ties.
Caveat: If I absolutely couldnât afford to leave my apartment behind without incurring painful costs, Iâd take Google.
Before you make any decision, make sure you get the express, explicit, oral offer from eBay first. It will be even better if you can get a written offer.
Split?
A++++ Fast response time! Would summer with again! A+++
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lolâd
(Woosh to the anon above)
google has more consistency as a company, as ebay is kind of easy to replace. craigslist + paypal is often times better than ebay alone.
wtf is this? You know eBay owns Paypal, right?
anyway, tell eBay you want to keep the offer open for a month while you explore your options. If they say no then accept, if they say yes, wait until you get an offer or get rejected from Google, then make your decision. Both legal departments look great for biglaw if you want to get into tech transactions or IP litigation. Itâll just come down to where you want.
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Posting anonymously bc I donât want to out myself.
When I interviewed at Google for the position that I have now, the process took about three months in total. Granted, I interviewed for two permanent positions and didnât get the first one, but still. If you get all the way through the process and land the internship, you will probably have had a minimum of two in-person interviews (in addition to the phone screen and, for some positions, the submission of a writing sample). My friends whoâve interned have told me that the hiring process was similar in length for them.
The perks at Google are beyond amazing, and they treat the interns to a lot of great events (cruises, wine tastings, etc.) to make the interns want to come back. I totally understand why youâre holding out for Goog.
I would call the eBay recruiter and ask how long you could consider the offer for, and maybe mention that youâre trying to figure out logistics and summer housing to see if living in California is financially realistic for you.
Iâd take the ebay offer for several reasons. First of all if you implied it is your first choice you donât want to burn any bridges. Second of all if in-house tech is the goal I think working in CA for the summer will make you a much stronger candidate than working in NY, just because the general perception is that CA is where the action is. Thirdly you should talk with the people at Google and see about the possibility of doing an internship during the fall semester 1-2 days a week. If they like you, I think this is something they may consider. That way you could have a chance to do both options. Working at ebay this summer will only help you, whereas if they have the impression that they were your first choice and you turn them down, they could hold that against you in the future.
+1. The Silicon Valley tech law community is SMALL. EBay and Google legal recruiters almost certainly know each other. If you said one was a first choice and then you back out, it will reflect poorly on you and could harm you in the future.
In a similar vein, I would delete this thread. I donât think youâre appreciating how small the community is / how much youâve outed yourself. At least three current/former Google legal employees have seen this thread (Iâm one of them) and itâs not making you look great!
Make that four!
The OP is done.
(I can has job?)
I find this anonymous-Google crap highly offensive and childlike and it certainly reflects very poorly on real google legal employees, in the good chance you guys even work for them. Iâll make a note to ask Google recruiters about this type of scare-tactic advice post-grads that claim to work for them give, as I have ZERO interest in working for a place like this if employees spend time during the work week trolling TLS (3:40PM on a Fri? Shouldnât you be working for the salary Google pays you for?)
This forum is for law students to get advice about what to do. OP was telling the truth; they said it was their first choice (at the time), and if Google had come along, Google wouldâve obviously been the first choice. OP wanted to know what to do, which is the whole point of TLS. But even then, you donât even know who the anon person is, and in fact, they could be completely lying about who they are, their qualifications, and how far they are along in this process. It could be a cruel troll that is basing their story of another TLSâ profile to cause drama. Give advice to take the post downâsureâbut no need to say that OP is âdone.â or threaten to take OP down, when you donât even have good enough proof to prove who OP even is.
Unprofessional and tacky.
+1. Well said. The first post seemed legit, but Iâd venture a guess that the âyouâre doneâ anon was a troll.
Either way, it is a little harsh for TLS, and the OP never seemed that unreasonable or unethical.
Oh my god you wonât work for Google?? Oh noes. I bet they are having a meeting over there now trying to figure out how to repair their image in the mind of a 0L